From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,604e0f87aa06eab6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-03-15 06:18:46 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.vmunix.org!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!RRZ.Uni-Koeln.DE!uni-duisburg.de!not-for-mail From: Georg Bauhaus Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 14:18:46 +0000 (UTC) Organization: GMUGHDU Message-ID: References: <1047665830.579605@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: d2-hrz.uni-duisburg.de X-Trace: a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de 1047737926 9483 134.91.1.15 (15 Mar 2003 14:18:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.uni-duisburg.de NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 14:18:46 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: tin/1.5.8-20010221 ("Blue Water") (UNIX) (HP-UX/B.11.00 (9000/831)) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:35369 Date: 2003-03-15T14:18:46+00:00 List-Id: Hyman Rosen wrote: : It seems clear to me that in both the Java and C# cases, generics are : being added as an afterthought by people who don't really understand : them. Wasn't that Norman Cohen in the Java case? Yes, according to http://java.sun.com/javaone/javaone2001/pdfs/2733.pdf The recent Java-with-generics compiler works fairly well. :> Microsoft is now explaining what is wrong with Java. Eiffel has generics too, Bertrand Meyer travelled the world in order to explain .NET. Is one to draw conclusions from this?