From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,1ea92c0e5255811d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-03-05 12:31:07 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!colt.net!peernews3.colt.net!news0.de.colt.net!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!RRZ.Uni-Koeln.DE!uni-duisburg.de!not-for-mail From: Georg Bauhaus Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Way OT: Adam Smith and Software Markets Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:31:06 +0000 (UTC) Organization: GMUGHDU Sender: Georg Bauhaus Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: d2-hrz.uni-duisburg.de X-Trace: a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de 1046896266 17462 134.91.1.15 (5 Mar 2003 20:31:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.uni-duisburg.de NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:31:06 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: tin/1.5.8-20010221 ("Blue Water") (UNIX) (HP-UX/B.11.00 (9000/831)) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:34931 Date: 2003-03-05T20:31:06+00:00 List-Id: Marin David Condic wrote: : The point is that Ada standing around saying "I'm *technically* better than : C/C++/Java/Whatever..." is ignoring what it is that the *consumer* of : programming languages thinks is "better" and may be interested in buying. Yes, I think that describes it very well, yet with ISE's Eiffel you get a standard library of utility code, a slick IDE, both a portable and a system specific GUI, database interfacing, parsing, XML, language defined tasking, commercial support from various compiler producers, excellent literature, but still, is it in wide use? : I suspect that if Ada had a large library of utility code, a slick IDE, a GUI : and maybe some support tools it might find less resistance because it would : be addressing more of what the consumer wants to buy. Right now, it is not : "better" in the minds of many because other languages are doing a better job : of offering development leverage to the consumer. : One ignores Adam Smith at one's peril. Its sort of like ignoring gravity. And that should include a look at "The Theory of Moral Sentiments", e.g. at http://www.socsci.mcmaster.ca/~econ/ugcm/3ll3/smith/ -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Georg Bauhaus bauhaus@futureapps.de Future Apps GmbH phone: +49 203 306 1560