From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,583275b6950bf4e6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-03-01 05:18:03 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-06!sn-xit-08!supernews.com!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!harp.news.atl.earthlink.net!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: the Ada mandate, and why it collapsed and died Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 08:13:54 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: References: <3E5EDCB1.C841AFDD@adaworks.com> <3E60215B.8E1CB727@adaworks.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: d1.56.be.7a X-Server-Date: 1 Mar 2003 13:15:36 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:34769 Date: 2003-03-01T13:15:36+00:00 List-Id: Well, the language wars are never really over, are they? Technology keeps marching on, new projects get started with what is then the latest & greatest technology. The world turns and the more things change the more they look the same. :-) What I would like to see is an army of small-time developers building better products and shamelessly using Ada to do it. (Put that little "Ada Inside" sticker on it! :-) One could think big, like an Ada-OS or an Ada version of Star Office or an Ada version of Quicken (Is there a good open-source checkbook/accounting program out there?) One could think small, like tools for education (tutorial software for languages, math & statistics packages for academic uses, etc.) or hacker tools within the organization. One could think about the new products the company is planning and see how to get Ada to fit in there. Whatever angle it goes, the objective is to build really solid, reliable software and put that "Ada Inside" sticker on it. The beauty of it is that if this army of small-timers goes out and makes reliable products and Ada starts gaining some visibility & reputation as a result, you'd have the DoD contractors looking at the "New Wave" and wondering how they missed the boat the first time around. The irony of it would be delicious, wouldn't it? :-) MDC -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jsf.mil/ Send Replies To: m c o n d i c @ a c m . o r g "Going cold turkey isn't as delicious as it sounds." -- H. Simpson ====================================================================== Richard Riehle wrote in message news:3E60215B.8E1CB727@adaworks.com... > > Someone, about two years ago said, "The language wars are over and > C++ is the winner." What we now realize is that the language wars > are not over, and no one is really the winner. If there is a loser, it > is the Department of Defense which allowed its own successes with > the Ada policy to be squandered. It is a clear case of the famous > expression, "... grabbing defeat from the jaws of victory." >