From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a6b:b586:: with SMTP id e128-v6mr3172988iof.35.1535228667417; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 13:24:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:aca:2b06:: with SMTP id i6-v6mr152141oik.0.1535228667255; Sat, 25 Aug 2018 13:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.linkpendium.com!news.linkpendium.com!news.snarked.org!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!g24-v6no1901727iti.0!news-out.google.com!z5-v6ni1512ite.0!nntp.google.com!w19-v6no1897975itb.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 13:24:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=2607:f2c0:f200:1405:440f:d5c3:e46b:1699; posting-account=cUi90woAAADTaOISowbbHM8GUD0-opJO NNTP-Posting-Host: 2607:f2c0:f200:1405:440f:d5c3:e46b:1699 References: <309225242.556906218.575482.laguest-archeia.com@nntp.aioe.org> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Studying and Maintaining GNAT, Is There Any Interest in a New Group? From: patrick@spellingbeewinnars.org Injection-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 20:24:27 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:54253 Date: 2018-08-25T13:24:26-07:00 List-Id: Hi Simon The Adacore gatekeepers thing just doesn't really bother me, we could distribute patched versions and the GCC people would eventually catch on if the Adacore guys were blocking good code. However I am discouraged with what you are saying about the bugs being on the compiler side and not so much in the RTS. The runtime is well commented and is mostly Ada. I could see myself understanding this and making patches at some point but GCC is one of the most complex pieces of software ever produced. It's totally out of my league. I am not sure what to do? I don't even know what the a4 project is that Luke spoke of and Byron has not had a commit in over a year and is a massive undertaking. What will GNAT look like in 5 years? :( Doesn't seem worth including in the instrumentation control software I am slowly-slowly writing.