From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,29d8139471e3f53e X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!v23g2000vbi.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Cyrille Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Preventing type extensions Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:37:09 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: <87iq2bfenl.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> <874odv9npv.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <87y6b7cedd.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> <66a3704c-54f9-4f04-8860-aa12f516134b@t3g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> <87d3sib44t.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> <134q4k2ly2pf4$.17nlv1q6q5ivo.dlg@40tude.net> <4c8dec8e$0$6990$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> <8f6cceFrv2U1@mid.individual.net> <135a7dc9-3943-45e4-884b-3cc6bce3db0a@q18g2000vbm.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.99.106.125 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1285090629 18855 127.0.0.1 (21 Sep 2010 17:37:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:37:09 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: v23g2000vbi.googlegroups.com; posting-host=212.99.106.125; posting-account=bNhsVwoAAAB6XmNPWgYcbUm6npIwL2C4 User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.9.2.10) Gecko/20100914 Firefox/3.6.10 ( .NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:14178 Date: 2010-09-21T10:37:09-07:00 List-Id: On Sep 21, 4:50=A0pm, "(see below)" wrote: > > all OO languages I'm aware of, have the notion of classwide types... > > They just don't make the distinction between a type on its own and a > > type with its derived types. If you think about it, it is a peculiar > > distinction at the "design" level. A horse is an animal... When I deal > > with animals, I must be ready to accept that maybe the animal I'm > > dealing with may be a horse, or may be something else. It's peculiar > > to expect it to be the pure notion of "animal" and nothing else... > > What is peculiar about abstraction? Abstraction is a good thing. Differentiating between Animals and Animals'Class doesn't particularly help abstraction, as far as I am concerned. This differentiation was a neat way to introduce OO into an existing language such as Ada 83, I don't think there is more to it than that.