From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,912597791e813f68 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-01-20 08:01:03 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.vmunix.org!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsmm00.sul.t-online.com!t-online.de!news.t-online.com!not-for-mail From: "karl bowl" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: advantages or disadvantages of ADA over pascal or modula Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:56:04 +0100 Organization: T-Online Message-ID: References: <3E171612.E4E2972@t-online.de> <3E296128.4183B70A@t-online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.t-online.com 1043078290 06 18418 VGtYEyfESDYGsn 030120 15:58:10 X-Complaints-To: abuse@t-online.com X-Sender: 320060560190-0001@t-dialin.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:33242 Date: 2003-01-20T16:56:04+01:00 List-Id: "Alfred Hilscher" schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:3E296128.4183B70A@t-online.de... > I have a question to you, too. > > Assume you have to program a brake control for car, would you do it in > Ada? Then I would like to know which tools you use. The systems I know > are based on microcontrollers HC11/HC12 or 8051. _I_ don't know any > Ada-compiler for these chips. While there are a lot of C develop > environments, there are only very few for Modula, and none for Ada. > Please correct me if I'm wrong. > > The next point is: C systems are cheap and even free available. Modula > systems are expensive. But - Ada prices are far beyond from good and > bad. Have you ever heard the prices from Green Hills for example? A > small company with five to ten people can not buy it. And what I've > heard about ACT-prices, they seem not be suitable, too. Embedded systems > in non military environment have not some k-dollars available for > sw-tools. I belong to a group of programmers for movement control systems based on 80x86-Processor (embedded system). As far as now, we have used pascal 86. But now, we would like to change, because the tools for sw-development in this language have been going rare. There are a group of colleagues, they prefer Modula2. But I think, Modula2 is not used very often and so there are not distributions, whitch provides good tools for sw-development (i. e. a source code debugger for the target system). Therfore, I am looking for alternatives - i. e. Ada. Another big point is, that the language we choose, should be a language with strong type checking. The price is important for us but as less important as the point mentioned before. Nic