From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,912597791e813f68 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-01-19 08:44:35 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed2.easynews.com!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!harp.news.atl.earthlink.net!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: advantages or disadvantages of ADA over pascal or modula Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 11:43:29 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: References: <3E171612.E4E2972@t-online.de> <3E296128.4183B70A@t-online.de> <6FD73B2917327E23.5FF84A56513A69C6.AC3092FBD5BCEE58@lp.airnews.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: d1.56.bd.6c X-Server-Date: 19 Jan 2003 16:44:44 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:33212 Date: 2003-01-19T16:44:44+00:00 List-Id: Absolutely! Yeah, verrily! And Amen! Engineers tend to think that the object of the game is to use really advanced tools to build really cool stuff. Bzzzzzttt! Wrong Answer! The object of the game is to MAKE MONEY and the sooner Ada can start showing people how it MAKES MONEY, the sooner it will start finding acceptance against all of the objections of the anti-Ada software developers that don't want to use it. If the industry that manufactures blivets uses predominantly C and someone starts a business to make blivets and uses Ada and starts coming out with better, less expensive blivets that show up earlier to market, you'll see Ada catch on in the blivet industry like wildfire. Unfortunately, I suspect that Ada would be only one small factor in improving the overall performance of most industries. Hence, the management view of "A language is a language is a language..." Other factors can easily outweigh whatever advantages Ada has over its competitors. That's why I think its important for Ada to evolve a whole toolset to improve productivity for some segment of the commercial world - to add more leverage than the language alone can produce. MDC -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jast.mil/ Send Replies To: m c o n d i c @ a c m . o r g "I'd trade it all for just a little more" -- Charles Montgomery Burns, [4F10] ====================================================================== John R. Strohm wrote in message news:DFEB74B72ECC1424.38F3492A4FC37FE2.7686CDC7A4899242@lp.airnews.net... > > You have to learn their language. > > Let me give you an example. A whole bunch of companies spent a lot of money > on Expert Systems work in the 1980s because of a couple of huge success > stories. Digital Equipment Corporation did the VAX configurator, that saved > them a huge boatload of money. BBN did a geology expert system that found a > monster ore deposit that humans had overlooked. When you show a beancounter > that you can make him REAL MONEY using technology, he'll listen. > > >