From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,912597791e813f68 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-01-19 04:51:20 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!p62.246.105.113.tisdip.tiscali.DE!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: advantages or disadvantages of ADA over pascal or modula Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 13:51:56 +0100 Organization: At home Message-ID: References: <3E171612.E4E2972@t-online.de> <3E296128.4183B70A@t-online.de> <6FD73B2917327E23.5FF84A56513A69C6.AC3092FBD5BCEE58@lp.airnews.net> Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de NNTP-Posting-Host: p62.246.105.113.tisdip.tiscali.de (62.246.105.113) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1042980678 25663970 62.246.105.113 (16 [77047]) User-Agent: KNode/0.7.1 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:33204 Date: 2003-01-19T13:51:56+01:00 List-Id: John R. Strohm wrote: > "Vinzent Hoefler" wrote in message > news:b0damu$olm3h$2@ID-175126.news.dfncis.de... >> "John R. Strohm" wrote: >> >> >"Vinzent Hoefler" wrote in message >> >news:b0cil5$nrsvj$1@ID-175126.news.dfncis.de... >> >> "John R. Strohm" wrote: >> >> >> >> >In other words, trying to save a few pennies on software development >> >> >toolsets is sheer idiocy. >> >> >> >> ACK. But you forgot the usual manager thinking. >> > >> >No, I didn't. Instead, I explain the usual manager thinking, and the >> >way the software engineer must couch the argument so as to work WITHIN >> >the > usual >> >manager thinking. >> >[example snipped] >> >> Of course. But as Minsky said: "Logic doesn't apply to the real >> world." Probably at least not to too much of the business world. I >> gave up to understand it. > > You have to learn their language. > > Let me give you an example. A whole bunch of companies spent a lot of > money on Expert Systems work in the 1980s because of a couple of huge > success > stories. Digital Equipment Corporation did the VAX configurator, that > saved them a huge boatload of money. DEC is dead, because of managers' ingorance. I have no info for brake control, but motor control is written in C. The problem is that people who make decisions and those who care responsibility for the consequences of the decisions are different people. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov www.dmitry-kazakov.de