From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.236.111.4 with SMTP id v4mr48723341yhg.55.1426207323300; Thu, 12 Mar 2015 17:42:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.83.165 with SMTP id j34mr749642qgd.8.1426207323240; Thu, 12 Mar 2015 17:42:03 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.glorb.com!hl2no10942798igb.0!news-out.google.com!db6ni50316igc.0!nntp.google.com!hl2no10942791igb.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 17:42:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <28971f3f-026c-4576-9ead-5ad66c2f2249@googlegroups.com> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=73.46.72.234; posting-account=yiWntAoAAAC1KqC_shmxJYv07B9l6LNU NNTP-Posting-Host: 73.46.72.234 References: <8f7f21a7-b631-45df-87c0-6080c481bd6e@googlegroups.com> <28971f3f-026c-4576-9ead-5ad66c2f2249@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: hows gnoga and aws? any more startups popping up using that free tek? From: David Botton Injection-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 00:42:03 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:25157 Date: 2015-03-12T17:42:03-07:00 List-Id: > So what websites or apps do you have online? Keep in mind that Gnoga's 1.0 release is only about 3 months old and Gnoga = as a whole is not even 6 months old yet :) Also keep in mind that while Gnoga can be used for websites or on-line apps= , it is intended just as much to be used as an alternative for UI developme= nt outside of the web on individual desktop, mobile or even embedded system= s. So http://gnoga.com uses it (as much for testing purposes as anything else = at this stage of development) and there are a few simple demos on the tools= page there. I've already used it for some projects in my medical clinics and I know of = a few projects using it or will be using it for GUIs for their products (i.= e. not on-line apps). I have two actual customer project that will be using Gnoga in the next few= months and so concentration the last month with Gnoga dev has been on stab= ility for production use not demos and "cool flash". (My original plan was = to already be on the IDE and GUI builders, so back on the flashy path soon)= . Gnoga is a serious tool and the future direction of GUI programming (regard= less of language) that leverages web tech but not exclusively web centric. = I know it will take time for people to "get it". It's not another "On Rails= ", "Web Framework" or "Ajax in a Box". > Any forum or blog app? There is a demo forum/blog app in the Gnoga distro. > Does the concurrency/speed stay fast? even with many users? So far tests are very promising even under heavy load. Gnoga can be used like a typical "web application server" if desired (as op= posed to a full out multiuser application host) by following a model closer= to that in the gnoga forum demo of creating web pages and responding to th= em in the same typical stateless (or simulated stateful) approach used toda= y on the web. The results will be a very fast light weight web service on p= ar or better than those produced by other languages or using AWS, etc. Depending on usage and programming model answering your question can be dif= ficult. For example I have some apps for Gnoga that are very resource inten= sive and there is no intention that more than a few users access them at an= y given time, Gnoga is just the UI portion. So your question when Gnoga is used for "web sites / services" may make sen= se, when used as a GUI it is not so relevant. > I think you mentioned that you don't use aws? What do you use? Gnoga uses Simple Components from Dmitry Kazakov for http, https and websoc= ket transports. In the future it will also have a direct to webkit connecti= on with no transport for pure client side GUIs. (It already supports full c= lient side but still using http(s) and/or websockets for it). > Would gona ever talk to www.hypertable.org ? It may if someone wanted it to. Is not a big deal to bind to it. If ODbC dr= ivers exist it already can (Simple Components contains ODBC drivers), if it= has a JavaScript API it is already usable via Gnoga, etc. If it has a C AP= I so typical Ada binding to it, etc. etc. > or is it more like postgresql backend? There are native MySQL and SqlLite bindings in Gnoga, Simple Components has= ODBC, and so PostgreSQL if you want it or any other with a driver, GNATCOL= is license virused but available too for PostgreSQL and there are many oth= er Ada options out there. > www.prevayler.org is java, but would you ever use a data in ram ada solut= ion with updates logged to a file before being applied kind of setup for sp= eed and simplicity? There are Ada solutions already for that. In fact some built in to the lang= uage using passive distributed partitions. David Botton