From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,5f6322415d6639e0 X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!p6g2000pre.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Eric Hughes Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Will the defect with formal package parameters be fixed in GNAT GPL 2009? Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:12:50 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: <558b7171-809b-4259-8679-4b4cff9de519@b6g2000pre.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 166.70.57.218 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1240942370 18831 127.0.0.1 (28 Apr 2009 18:12:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:12:50 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: p6g2000pre.googlegroups.com; posting-host=166.70.57.218; posting-account=5RIiTwoAAACt_Eu87gmPAJMoMTeMz-rn User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042316 Firefox/3.0.10 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:5581 Date: 2009-04-28T11:12:50-07:00 List-Id: On Apr 27, 1:20=A0pm, sjw wrote: > Newsflash: it's _your_ problem, _you_ post the bug report! (and if you > didn't, why are you surprised that it's not fixed?) It's not my problem at all; I just won't be using Ada if it doesn't work. C++ templates are perfectly adequate to satisfy what I need in generic programming. I don't suppose that the Ada-only people here pay much attention to C++, but there's some quite good work being done there with generics, both in practice and in proposals for the next language version. So there's exciting progress in C++ with generics, and the only practical compiler for GPL code can't do a nested instantiation. I really do fail to see how this is my personal problem. This is the Ada community's problem--not only the actual defect but also the practical difficulty of even filing a report on it. It's a problem because when you make things unnecessarily difficult, people will go elsewhere. In the present case, my own position is quite clear to me--I won't support a platform (=3D language + distributions + organizations) by writing libraries for it when that platform throws up barriers to entry and barriers to quality.