From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,630c12e823d1bdf4 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-01-11 06:29:06 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!207.217.77.102!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!harp.news.atl.earthlink.net!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada Compiler Pricing Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 09:28:37 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: References: <1040653133.613605@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <3e18f3f3_1@news.tm.net.my> <6KwmrO7CZtnj@eisner.encompasserve.org> <1041910244.361888@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <3E1E5604.5030209@nospam.adrianhoe.com> <3E1EA349.6B97C328@adaworks.com> <3E1F9FD5.90802@nospam.adrianhoe.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: d1.56.ba.4e X-Server-Date: 11 Jan 2003 14:29:06 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:32916 Date: 2003-01-11T14:29:06+00:00 List-Id: Most of the resources are there to make Ada quite useful to the student environment and that is cause for hope. There really should be no impediments to learning and using Ada as a student or hobbyist. (short of possibly not finding a book translated into one's native tongue.) The trick is also to make it viable in the commercial world so that those students and hobbyists can actually find jobs once they've invested in learning it. Also, it would be helpful if there was something going along with Ada that gave reasons outside of the language itself as to why students and hobbyists should bother to learn it. (Example: Someone might want to learn C because they wanted to play around with Linux. Someone might bother to learn Java because they wanted to learn how to make cool things that run from a web page. What does Ada provide now that might have a similar attraction? What *could* Ada provide that would be an attraction?) And yes, I'd heartily agree that getting rid of the off-topic crud would make C.L.A. a better attraction to Ada newbies. The occasional drift may be fine, but when things go into political outbursts that others will find offensive, it can only serve to discourage readership. MDC -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jast.mil/ Send Replies To: m c o n d i c @ a c m . o r g "I'd trade it all for just a little more" -- Charles Montgomery Burns, [4F10] ====================================================================== Pascal Obry wrote in message news:u7kdcrrd9.fsf@wanadoo.fr... > > Good, now we are in 2003, we have Internet, 2 zero cost compilers for students, > many books, lots of Internet resources (too much to be read in a short period > of time), a living news group (except for 70% OT messages ;) So all this is > fixed! Ada is going to rock this year! >