From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,103b407e8b68350b X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-01-09 05:53:29 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!sjc70.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!harp.news.atl.earthlink.net!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Anybody in US using ADA ? New language competition? (long) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 08:53:08 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: References: <3E148004.5000408@cogeco.ca> <3E15CF31.1020900@cogeco.ca> <3E19C980.6060902@cogeco.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: d1.56.b8.8f X-Server-Date: 9 Jan 2003 13:53:28 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:32820 Date: 2003-01-09T13:53:28+00:00 List-Id: Well, there's really two kinds of "me too!!!". On the one hand, you could talk about things like thin bindings, which always puts you in the position of having to mimic what the other guy does and then you're stuck in a position where they always have more capability, easier access and ultimately define the game. On the other hand, you can talk about having similar *capabilities* such as "I have a graphics library too, but mine is better because of yada yada yada". You do have to have an ability to bind to many things that already exist - it just isn't very exciting and doesn't win you converts. What is *better* is if you can present your own capabilities as superior to what is done elsewhere because it gives the developer a real reason to want to use your product rather than someone else's. MDC -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jast.mil/ Send Replies To: m c o n d i c @ a c m . o r g "I'd trade it all for just a little more" -- Charles Montgomery Burns, [4F10] ====================================================================== chris.danx wrote in message news:MHeT9.11$bG2.122@news13-win.server.ntlworld.com... > > In some ways I agree with you but if you don't have "me too!" then > people ain't gonna look twice at you. For example, I would like to do > some raster graphics work (practice for uni) right now for a course. > Where is the ada package that lets me do that? Does it support decoding > and encoding of raster graphics formats? Does it support multiple > colour spaces (eg RGB, RGBA, CYM, HSV, Monotone, Greyscale)? Is it > portable? Can you interface it with GUIs easily? > > Java has this, and I've seen other languages that offer something > comparable (libraries etc) but there's none for Ada (not on Adapower, > nor in the first 4 pages of google on a reasonable search string - which > is a rough limit I've observed to the depth people will go on average > before changing the search criteria). Even given the fact I know Ada, I > have considered going back to Java to do this work. What would a newer > Ada programmer do? What would someone looking for a new language to > learn think if raster graphics where important to them? This is just > one library ada lacks... > > If I get time, I'll finish writing the proposal for Ada 2D that I'm in > the middle of, but like so many things I've wanted to do or tried to do, > this might not ever come to be... it might be shelved because I just > don't have the time with all the Uni work they love to give us. Failing > that I will upload it for others to work on, but I doubt anyone else > would be willing to work on it for any length of time because we're all > in the same boat - e.g. this is probably why grace is stalled (it's > certainly true of Aqua)! > > > Danx > -- > for personal replies change spamoff to chris > > > >