From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00, PP_MIME_FAKE_ASCII_TEXT autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 103376,103b407e8b68350b X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-01-02 18:57:08 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!207.217.77.102!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!harp.news.atl.earthlink.net!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Anybody in US using ADA ? One silly idea.. Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:56:50 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: References: <3E147D79.2070703@cogeco.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: d1.56.b0.9b X-Server-Date: 3 Jan 2003 02:57:08 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:32471 Date: 2003-01-03T02:57:08+00:00 List-Id: Machismo may be interesting, but nobody is going to be fooled by empty, shallow, marketing for very long. Eventually, they open the box up and see the same old Ada and word gets out. I don't think Ada is *bad* - but it sure has a problem selling itself with "reliability", etc. That's why I've become convinced that a new emphasis and new tools might do a better job of getting Ada accepted. I'd be happy to be proven wrong - that all we really had to do was change the name and use some more cosmetics - but I don't think that's the case. MDC -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jast.mil/ Send Replies To: m c o n d i c @ a c m . o r g "I'd trade it all for just a little more" -- Charles Montgomery Burns, [4F10] ====================================================================== Bill Findlay wrote in message news:BA3A535D.177F%yaldnifw@blueyonder.co.uk... > > In a language controversy on comp.arch a few weeks ago, some of us came to > the conclusion that a lot of the irrational antipathy to Ada was based on > unregenerate machismo. Real Programmers � don't want to hear about "software > safety" (obviously a namby-pamby concern) and they certainly don't want > their code criticized by Ada (a mere slip of girl). > > I suggested that we Ada proponents should talk instead about "aggressive bug > destruction" and that the 0Y committee should look at changing the name to > something that exudes testosterone. My first idea was "Rocky", but "Brutus" > attracted more support. > > -- > Bill-Findlay chez blue-yonder.co.uk ("-" => "") > >