From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,f13a966d0e1d3f9d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-12-19 09:29:03 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.freenet.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news.uni-jena.de!news.fh-jena.de!not-for-mail From: Karl Kleine Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Interesting and historical document Date: 19 Dec 2002 17:25:19 GMT Organization: Fachhochschule Jena, Germany Message-ID: References: <95e501d7.0212171946.28bbe9e8@posting.google.com> <3E006C67.43A7DA58@brighton.ac.uk> <3E019B90.117BB9E1@brighton.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: hoare.gw.fh-jena.de X-Trace: beta.szi.fh-jena.de 1040318719 5722 194.94.38.12 (19 Dec 2002 17:25:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@beta.szi.fh-jena.de NNTP-Posting-Date: 19 Dec 2002 17:25:19 GMT User-Agent: tin/1.4.2-20000205 ("Possession") (UNIX) (Linux/2.2.16 (i686)) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:32085 Date: 2002-12-19T17:25:19+00:00 List-Id: John English wrote: > Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: >> >> John English fed this fish to the penguins on Wednesday 18 December >> 2002 04:39 am: >> >> > Interesting indeed. Having never seen the original Green proposal, >> >> I'm not even sure if I have the original Ada textbook (which came >> after the name was chosen but before I graduated in 1980) > The preliminary spec was published in SIGPLAN Notices in 1979, but > it was already called Ada by then. However, it was reasonably similar > to the final form of the standard by then. Dijkstra's comments about > Green make me think that Green must have been a very different beast > indeed from what was eventually published in 1979, and I'd be curious > to know more about it. It would also be nice to see the other proposals > -- IIRC, Red was based on Algol 68, but that's all I know about it. > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > John English | mailto:je@brighton.ac.uk > Senior Lecturer | http://www.it.bton.ac.uk/staff/je > Dept. of Computing | ** NON-PROFIT CD FOR CS STUDENTS ** > University of Brighton | -- see http://burks.bton.ac.uk > ----------------------------------------------------------------- I still have the Green language definition and its rationale, as well as the RED language proposal. It's a long time, and I have to check my archives, as as far as I recall right now, RED was more in the Pascal tradition. I will check and maybe make it available also on my history page http://www.fh-jena.de/~kleine/history where you can find a number of language manuals of time gone by. (No Ada entry yet, but that will also come sometime soon also) ________________________________________________________ Prof. Karl Kleine http://www.fh-jena.de/~kleine Fachhochschule Jena kleine@fh-jena.de Carl-Zeiss-Promenade 2 +49-3641-205-502 [fax -503] D-07745 Jena, Germany