From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,a1ce307c10055549 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-12-18 05:32:23 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!sjc70.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!harp.news.atl.earthlink.net!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: IBM Acquires Rational Ada Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:31:41 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: References: <3DF1615C.7AAAC86E@adaworks.com> <3DF1B042.6603DDDE@easystreet.com> <3DF2A483.EC512CDF@adaworks.com> <8db3d6c8.0212091445.12594821@posting.google.com> <3DF628C4.7090607@cogeco.ca> <3DF8D8BF.9020606@cogeco.ca> <3DF978DE.B4C2A2C1@adaworks.com> <1ZlK9.2246$c6.2601@bos-service2.ext.raytheon.com> <0YkL9.2262$c6.2398@bos-service2.ext.raytheon.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: d1.56.bb.57 X-Server-Date: 18 Dec 2002 13:32:11 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:32015 Date: 2002-12-18T13:32:11+00:00 List-Id: Wes Groleau wrote in message news:rHML9.2286$c6.2634@bos-service2.ext.raytheon.com... > > Perhaps that's why they didn't let us do that, either. :-) > Oh, I've been in on conversations where these sorts of things were discussed. Pratt & Whitney had (still has) a toolset they were interested in possibly farming out to a subcontractor at one or more times. The discussions would go around and around and because of lack of consensus or the unwillingness of anybody to put their neck on the line, inertia took over and they never farmed out the tools. They wouldn't likely have found a huge market, but if there were a handful of other users supporting a development team, it would have defrayed the costs to Pratt and probably given them more and better tools. There was once something called the Software Productivity Consortium which maybe once had some promise for being a mechanism by which the big companies might have leveraged their efforts, but for reasons I didn't understand, they refused to produce software (or even designs of software) and insisted mostly on producing paper. Unfortunately, paper didn't really result in much productivity imporvement. Had the companies agreed to jointly develop some software tools instead, they might have got somewhere with it. That's why I was thinking that some kind of "Ada Productivity Consortium" might achieve what the SPC couldn't and help make Ada a better product for the whole world at the same time. MDC -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jast.mil/ Send Replies To: m c o n d i c @ a c m . o r g "I'd trade it all for just a little more" -- Charles Montgomery Burns, [4F10] ======================================================================