From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,a1ce307c10055549 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-12-18 05:28:44 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!sjc70.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!harp.news.atl.earthlink.net!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: IBM Acquires Rational Ada Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:11:56 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: References: <8db3d6c8.0212170741.18770baa@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: d1.56.bb.57 X-Server-Date: 18 Dec 2002 13:12:28 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:32013 Date: 2002-12-18T13:12:28+00:00 List-Id: I don't mean to suggest that a committee should design the library, but I can't see how you're going to avoid a committee deciding what is going to be considered part of Ada. If there was only a single vendor of Ada and no users of Ada, then the vendor gets to design what goes in Ada. The instant it becomes plural and/or has users with various interests, there's your committee. If I were Dictator of the Universe, the way it would happen would be to have the vendors and the major users cough up a few intelligent individuals to serve as the committee to decide what the design parameters are and survey what's already out there to see if anything can be adopted or modified. Select one person to be the designer and then review/approve his work. Give them a deadline to come up with an initial result and give them sufficient resources to get that done. I'd imagine something like that could get you at least a container library in two or three months. Maybe more than that. Establish some reasonable objectives with a broad brush and let some smart people agree on what the details should be. (Mission Statement: "Go figure out how to give Ada some development leverage for some significant subset of development projects via libraries. Subjects to consider are Containers, Math, Text Processing, OS Interfacing, Communications, GUI, {etc}. First Deadline: A working Containers package, under a tree extensible to other areas, within 3 months.") MDC -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jast.mil/ Send Replies To: m c o n d i c @ a c m . o r g "I'd trade it all for just a little more" -- Charles Montgomery Burns, [4F10] ====================================================================== steve_H wrote in message news:8db3d6c8.0212170741.18770baa@posting.google.com... > > That is the problem with Ada, it is the 'committee' thing. > > committees can not write or design software. May be review or comment > on it only. > > the best libraries and software out there was written by a single, > or two talented individuals. Only in the Ada world I keep seeing this > committee thing pop up all the time. The more people work on software, > the worst and more delayed it gets. > > my 2 cents.