From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,a1ce307c10055549 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-12-17 06:48:05 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!HSNX.atgi.net!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!151.164.30.35!cyclone.swbell.net!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!harp.news.atl.earthlink.net!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: IBM Acquires Rational Ada Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:47:23 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: References: <3DF1615C.7AAAC86E@adaworks.com> <3DF1B042.6603DDDE@easystreet.com> <3DF2A483.EC512CDF@adaworks.com> <8db3d6c8.0212091445.12594821@posting.google.com> <3DF628C4.7090607@cogeco.ca> <3DF6653D.3030603@cogeco.ca> <8db3d6c8.0212101850.51506572@posting.google.com> <3DF8D33F.9020205@cogeco.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: d1.56.b5.ee X-Server-Date: 17 Dec 2002 14:47:51 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:31954 Date: 2002-12-17T14:47:51+00:00 List-Id: Randy Brukardt wrote in message news:uvskpvaik0db2b@corp.supernews.com... > > That's JWindows, which has been a part of Janus/Ada for MS-DOS and > Janus/Ada for Unix since the late 1980's. We originally developed it to > use for our original IDE (JAWS). It does multiple, overlapping text > windows, colors, cursor control, and drop down menus. It's implemented > by a low-level package that went direct to the hardware on MS-DOS and > used termcap (the underlying mechanism for curses) on Unix. > > We redesigned it for Ada 9x during the Ada 9x project (thus, the Ada 95 > version is different than the Ada 83). Indeed, it provided the starting > model for Claw. > Well, now there seems to be an answer! I'd guess that something like this would not be too hard to make reasonably portable between Windows and Unix (thus covering the bulk of the bases). Assuming an effort got started to make some kind of "Standard" Ada library, would you think that this might be included? Maybe that's a way to go - get the various vendors to look at what they already have as possible contributions and then find a way to restructure it under some sort of common tree. With a little bit of code modification, you have specified a common interface that all vendors can share and immediately support with their existing parts. "We supply A, B and C of the Common Ada Library, but not yet D, E and F...". Depending on licensing and willingness on the part of vendors to share, it might be a really fast way of getting something going. The advantage to the vendors is that they are making Ada more attractive to the customers they are *not* getting at the moment rather than struggling to win over the pool of customers already there. Given where Ada is today, it would seem that cooperation between the Ada vendors would be more profitable than competition. Get that pie growing and everyone will get get a bigger slice. MDC -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jast.mil/ Send Replies To: m c o n d i c @ a c m . o r g "I'd trade it all for just a little more" -- Charles Montgomery Burns, [4F10] ======================================================================