From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,a1ce307c10055549 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-12-14 11:04:08 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-06!sn-xit-09!sn-xit-08!supernews.com!207.217.77.43.MISMATCH!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!harp.news.atl.earthlink.net!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: IBM Acquires Rational Ada Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 09:25:49 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: References: <3DF1615C.7AAAC86E@adaworks.com> <3DF1B042.6603DDDE@easystreet.com> <3DF2A483.EC512CDF@adaworks.com> <8db3d6c8.0212091445.12594821@posting.google.com> <3DF628C4.7090607@cogeco.ca> <3DF8D8BF.9020606@cogeco.ca> <3DF978DE.B4C2A2C1@adaworks.com> <1ZlK9.2246$c6.2601@bos-service2.ext.raytheon.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: d1.56.b7.3c X-Server-Date: 14 Dec 2002 14:26:01 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:31819 Date: 2002-12-14T14:26:01+00:00 List-Id: Sounds like a good start. Problem 1: Is any of that stuff available under any kind of license that lets someone else use/develop it? Problem 2: Assuming it were available, would any of the vendors (or their existing customers) start clammoring to have it incorporated in their products? Problem 3: Is it sufficiently powerful - or at least offering something new/unique - that it could compete against other database products? I don't want to shoot down a good idea - just trying to raise the issues that would need to be addressed if persuing the matter further is to have any success. Its sort of like raising the issue of the Booch Components as a conventional part of Ada - The vendors don't seem to be itching to put them in, their customers don't seem to be begging for it and it really isn't somehow or other some major innovation above & beyond other component libraries that makes it so interesting to use that everybody just gravitates to it naturally instead of writing their own component library. Its a tough nut to crack without having something pushed from some sufficiently powerful body to make it stick. MDC -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jast.mil/ Send Replies To: m c o n d i c @ a c m . o r g "I'd trade it all for just a little more" -- Charles Montgomery Burns, [4F10] ====================================================================== Wes Groleau wrote in message news:1ZlK9.2246$c6.2601@bos-service2.ext.raytheon.com... > > databases. I agree that it would be *really* slick if Ada compilers were to > > come with some sort of database available. But how do we get the money to > > build something like that? The government? But they don't want to fund Ada > > development, do they? O.K. Don't tell them its for Ada. > > They already did. See my answer to R.R. I forgot to mention > RTDB was Ada 83 and was written because Ingres was way too slow > for AN/BSY-2. FIRM was its Ada 95 successor (sort of). > > Note that both were developed under defense contracts, > with all the requirements, design, test, peer review, > etc. rigor which that implies. >