From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,1116ece181be1aea X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-09-09 01:36:17 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!nycmny1-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!newsfeed.mathworks.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!tar-alcarin.cbb-automation.DE!not-for-mail From: Dmitry A. Kazakov Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Is the Writing on the Wall for Ada? Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 10:43:43 +0200 Message-ID: References: <9keolvs9tjbbbuv1ndnsr69af7mtddemhk@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tar-alcarin.cbb-automation.de (212.79.194.111) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1063096576 20690933 212.79.194.111 (16 [77047]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:42314 Date: 2003-09-09T10:43:43+02:00 List-Id: On 8 Sep 2003 12:50:45 -0700, aek@vib.usr.pu.ru (Alexander Kopilovitch) wrote: >> though JVM is close to useless, it could be a great lever to >> persuade customers to switch to Ada. The main obstacle with our >> customers is unavailability of Ada compilers for many platforms. They >> will not appear without customer demands. And there will be no such >> demands, I know my customers. At the same time many of these potential >> platforms have JVM. The rest is clear, I suppose. > >Why take all the mess and inefficiency of that JVM? Why not use Ada-to-C >translation step? As far as I understand, the SofCheck has and can supply >you that technology/toolset. And you may tell your customers that this is >simply a great way to achive both goodies in one bottle: good high-level OO >language for development and maintenance, and at the same time fashionable >restricted C for deployment on targets. They are managers, you know. Sometimes talking with them I am thinking that all stoies about Martians capturing humans, washing them brains and then returning them back are true. Managers are those returned! Or maybe dressed Martians. (:-)) Today they keep on wanting Java. That's it. Seriosly, one good thing about JVM has is a large library of widgets and communication protocols. To convince a manager your demo application should have all that and works on his PDA. Once you get a contract, you can slowly drag them into the right direction. But only then. --- Regards, Dmitry Kazakov www.dmitry-kazakov.de