From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,f51e93dacd9c7fca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-09-29 18:36:44 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.news2me.com!border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp2.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!harp.news.atl.earthlink.net!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: status of Ada STL? Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 21:36:06 -0400 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: References: <3d0f0c40_1@news.tm.net.my> <3D974E8E.5050302@acm.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: d1.56.a0.64 X-Server-Date: 30 Sep 2002 01:36:43 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:29424 Date: 2002-09-30T01:36:43+00:00 List-Id: I agree that endless debate is not going to move the mission forward, but would take some exception to the ARG approach to getting a library. With no intent to slight the ARG, it just by nature is going to be slow in arriving at anything and will likely go for a much more limited approach than could be done through some other means. Its just way too hard to get something like this into an ISO standard or do it with any speed and rapid response to changing demands. It would likely be far better to get something less formal through some other mechanism - such as SIGAda. The question is what sort of mechanism might be blessed by ARG, the vendors and the community at large as being an acceptable alternative?1 MDC -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jast.mil/ Send Replies To: m c o n d i c @ a c m . o r g "I'd trade it all for just a little more" -- Charles Montgomery Burns, [4F10] ====================================================================== Jeffrey Carter wrote in message news:3D974E8E.5050302@acm.org... > It appears that there will only be a common data-structures library > supported by most vendors if the ARG receives an API proposal for one. > That's a lot of work someone will have to do to get it into the form of > ARM sections. > > If the ARG receives only one such proposal, that will by default form > the basis of the standard library. The best thing for Ada would be for > people to prepare such proposals. With multiple proposals we are more > likely to get a decent standard library. Debating societies such as we > have seen here have yet to accomplish anything useful. >