From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00, LOTS_OF_MONEY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,f51e93dacd9c7fca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-09-28 06:26:22 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.mindspring.net.MISMATCH!newsfeed0.news.atl.earthlink.net!news.atl.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!harp.news.atl.earthlink.net!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: status of Ada STL? Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 09:25:53 -0400 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: References: <3d0f0c40_1@news.tm.net.my> NNTP-Posting-Host: d1.56.bc.67 X-Server-Date: 28 Sep 2002 13:26:22 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:29400 Date: 2002-09-28T13:26:22+00:00 List-Id: Be careful what you wish for. You just may get it. :-) What I think is far more important is some kind of indication of willingness to adopt something on the part of the vendors. If they won't pack it up with their compilers and ship it, then it isn't an unofficial standard. (Can we call this a "Convention"?) They obviously want to wait until some sufficient number of their paying customers start asking for something. (Hint: If you are a paying customer, send an e-mail to your sales or customer support weenies indicating what you would prefer.) If the compiler vendors aren't on board with something then it doesn't matter - download Booch or PragmARC or any of the other spiffy libraries out there and use what suits you best. Getting a consensus of CLA posters isn't going to make it any more universal or conventional - those who don't like Booch or PragmARC or Grace will use whatever they do like because there isn't much incentive not to. If it comes with the compiler, then you're spitting into the wind to use something else and you'd be fighting portability if you did. Why would someone go with a CLA consensus - especially since it will likely be anything but definitive - except to be one of The 'In' Crowd? There's not much incentive to cause it to be a Convention. Otherwise, we can wait for Ada0x since I'm sure something will be in it by then. In the mean time, people starting new projects can always go use C++ where they get the STL to help them leverage their efforts. :-) MDC -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jast.mil/ Send Replies To: m c o n d i c @ a c m . o r g "I'd trade it all for just a little more" -- Charles Montgomery Burns, [4F10] ====================================================================== Pat Rogers wrote in message news:JI4l9.38421$Co1.462744722@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com... > > > The Ada 95 Booch Components. > >