From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,71c743c03ed191fe X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-09-25 05:25:41 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news-hog.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!newshub.sdsu.edu!west.cox.net!cox.net!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!harp.news.atl.earthlink.net!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Beginer problem: variable array size Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 08:06:24 -0400 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: References: <38993b18.0209191906.b56b982@posting.google.com> <3D8B4CC9.5020202@cogeco.ca> <3D90991E.9040205@cogeco.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: d1.56.b1.9e X-Server-Date: 25 Sep 2002 12:07:28 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:29327 Date: 2002-09-25T12:07:28+00:00 List-Id: I don't know that they won't meet realtime requirements. I wouldn't worry too much about that anyway. Realtime is only a fraction of the Ada users and probably not so large a voting block that they need to be catered to in every instance. If the library is unsuitable for realtime, they're in the same boat they are in now - roll your own. (Given the mindset of many realtime guys, we'd probably go off and do that anyway because we didn't invent it and we want the devil we know! :-) I think the issue was one of complexity - many thought Booch was just too hard to understand or use in things like student applications. Maybe. Maybe not. I think it would be better to adopt *something* rather than stand around arguing about it for the next 10 years while C++ goes and wins converts to the STL. You either meet the market's needs or they go somewhere else. If other languages provide large libraries of useful stuff and Ada doesn't - too bad for Ada. The market will be happy to use something else. Its Darwin at work. Adapt - or else! (What are the odds of Ada succeeding in getting a Darwin Award here? :-) MDC -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jast.mil/ Send Replies To: m c o n d i c @ a c m . o r g "I'd trade it all for just a little more" -- Charles Montgomery Burns, [4F10] ====================================================================== Warren W. Gay VE3WWG wrote in message news:3D90991E.9040205@cogeco.ca... > > I agree, though I admit that I am biased (for the general purpose use). > > I know this has been discussed before (but perhaps not enough), > doesn't the Booch components more or less fit this "first stage"? From > my point of view, the # 1 disadvantage of the booch components is just > getting them properly instatiated. Apart from realtime issues, what other > issues exist?