From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,f51e93dacd9c7fca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-09-19 05:22:30 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!HSNX.atgi.net!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!151.164.30.35!cyclone.swbell.net!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!harp.news.atl.earthlink.net!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: status of Ada STL? Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 08:11:02 -0400 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: References: <3d0f0c40_1@news.tm.net.my> NNTP-Posting-Host: d1.56.a0.79 X-Server-Date: 19 Sep 2002 12:15:53 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:29167 Date: 2002-09-19T12:15:53+00:00 List-Id: Its an admirable effort. The question would be "Will everyone agree that this is now The Ada Answer?" or is it going to be one more among many available container libraries? Maybe I'm just cynical about it. :-) We've got lots of libraries. We've got libraries coming out of our ears. We've got libraries of every conceivable flavor, color or design philosophy. What we need is to get some semi-official recognition of ONE library (for at least the given problem domain of containers - other libraries for things like math, etc are also good ideas) that will be what Ada provides as the default product with all conforming compilers. To be cynical about it, the last time there was an effort in this area, nobody "official" popped up with tons of enthusiasm to declare something to be the right answer. To be hopeful about it, at least I've seen comments in Ada Letters and elsewhere that seem to indicate that there is some official recognition of the need to have *some* kind of library(ies). To go back to being cynical, I imagine it will take another 10 years before we see any usable response to the problem, by which time C++++ will have included some kind of mind-reading compiler functionality to include the "Do What I Mean" instruction set. :-) Ada needs some mechanism for defining "Official" responses to users needs that takes something less than ten years to react. Maybe I just need more coffee this morning. :-) MDC -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jast.mil/ Send Replies To: m c o n d i c @ a c m . o r g "I'd trade it all for just a little more" -- Charles Montgomery Burns, [4F10] ====================================================================== Matthew Heaney wrote in message news:uoh6j2rak72b5b@corp.supernews.com... > > > I have written a library, called Charles, modeled on the C++ STL, which has > all the container types in that library (vectors, deques, lists, sets, > multisets, maps, and multimaps). > > http://home.earthlink.net/~matthewjheaney/charles-20020918.zip > > Both active and passive iteration is supported. > > > >