From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,677963b1aa23e668 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news1.google.com!npeer02.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!216.196.98.146.MISMATCH!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 09:38:13 -0500 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:38:11 -0400 From: "Peter C. Chapin" Subject: Re: What's stopping you from using Ada for your next commercial project? In-Reply-To: <61bd1fdf-196e-4af7-8962-97e0c8c40656@a11g2000pri.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: References: <7d308b7b-51d7-4c93-85c8-eecb40f843d0@glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com> <88bf5879-c58e-4ae1-ad9e-e2b6a48729fe@34g2000pru.googlegroups.com> <61bd1fdf-196e-4af7-8962-97e0c8c40656@a11g2000pri.googlegroups.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (WNT 1167 2008-08-23) X-X-Sender: pcc09070@vtc.vsc.edu@webmail.vtc.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-c5Tid28pyerm9/VFOw7sL+AGsOO5Mct6J7v4HCAMXxUq9Eg1I7ON1Xd+ra08baJJz+86/XwO/Qe45nm!F23gr81S6SltbSqPwrEWChSpSlyzg4gb2/4iHNr8uOwhDq3ryHtHJQhD4M30djIamHAY6SogxQ== X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 2515 Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:19143 Date: 2011-03-14T10:38:11-04:00 List-Id: On Mon, 14 Mar 2011, KK6GM wrote: >> Could emulation running on PC be an option in that area ? > > I don't see much advantage to that, outside of a classroom environment. > These embedded systems connect to actual hardware, and very often perform > closed loop control. And every situation will be different. I know I > would want to connect real hardware to my real inputs and outputs and > perform real, live control, if I had any hopes of selling Ada to the > group. I'll echo this sentiment. Nothing is as convincing is watching actual hardware do actual work. Simulated environments definitely have their place but at the end of the day I'd want to see a real machine running my code. In particular there are often hidden issues that don't appear until you try to run on real hardware (or issues that only appear in simulation that just end up being distracting). Certainly someone interested in real time behavior will want to see how things work on a real machine. Peter