From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Nicolas Colin Paul de Gloucester Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: why is java so widespread when ada is free? makes 0 sense Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 18:56:28 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <866e6e94-6e49-4b73-8840-9d0987254253@googlegroups.com> <621e5847-240e-4b6f-8a2a-8ee0820823a2@googlegroups.com> <0977f4cc-53ab-4ce6-aca2-7cb7aa059fdd@googlegroups.com> <41d172af-40f3-4e03-879a-9d335d2f1ecf@googlegroups.com> <2294c089-90ce-4fcf-905b-56f8b64f9c55@googlegroups.com> <6fdf03c2-6fea-4480-ad3c-80f88b944dcb@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="c6519b3ecfc016f99588e924c44929cd"; logging-data="32148"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18T1dPMA/fwHyMup/ERxFtDV8WFo0iTgYzByPtRga+3zg==" User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LNX 1167 2008-08-23) In-Reply-To: <6fdf03c2-6fea-4480-ad3c-80f88b944dcb@googlegroups.com> Cancel-Lock: sha1:ATKRQigBh5Aqi27/Rqnjk+gWzBM= X-X-Sender: gloster@earth.anapnea.net Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:31635 Date: 2016-08-29T18:56:28+02:00 List-Id: Andrew Shvets sent: |----------------------------------------------------------------------| |"[. . .] Ada, when it first came out, required you to buy a compiler | |and it was closed source. Java, when it first came out was closed | |source, but the compiler (and run-time environment) was free. During | |the 90's when this was a huge deal, getting to the market first with a| |so-so product was more important than being late with a quality | |product (still is the case today, somewhat.) | | | |So, Java took over. [. . .]" | |----------------------------------------------------------------------| Dear Andrew Shvets: I agree that gratis availability of Java is an important reason for its widespread distribution. Gratis availability was not sufficient. The same firm also provided StrongTalk; Fortress; and Self for gratis. It decided to market Java and to promote none of StrongTalk; Fortress; and Self. Another reason is that C++ was widespread, and the syntax of Java was designed to encourage C++ hackers to adopt Java. Thy sincerely, Nicholas Colin Paul de Gloucester