From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 5b1e799cdb,3ef3e78eacf6f938 X-Google-Attributes: gid5b1e799cdb,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news4.google.com!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!feeder.erje.net!feeder.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!not-for-mail From: Colin Paul Gloster Newsgroups: comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.modula3,comp.programming Subject: Re: Alternatives to C: ObjectPascal, Eiffel, Ada or Modula-3? Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:01:53 +0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <24b1e02c-ef00-4adf-be11-e65277fc095c@j32g2000yqh.googlegroups.com> Reply-To: Colin Paul Gloster Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: news.eternal-september.org U2FsdGVkX18c/C6GIz8U6/yxBGKqyj363SfVw7e5++JbnZG46Md7TLDpton5/E9MHJCSpFSlKn9qVp2oM8BOqTs9Um882prZBRMNJvMANQdXYMz14wDqk12jX2bDQw0AHPlpCaYvIL+wkUzUFkHtTLNvP+Lff45jXEaeN3IR9BU= X-Complaints-To: abuse@eternal-september.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:07:56 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <24b1e02c-ef00-4adf-be11-e65277fc095c@j32g2000yqh.googlegroups.com> X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX19c1t4MHJqAxrGclSnpQTNBRx48bXBCIXYrVuIgFEIK7EOMXjvAxdEMfvFaQr0Kb+s= Cancel-Lock: sha1:z2r8Ortmn0KYwRql2+5iwEgsIeM= X-X-Sender: Colin_Paul@Bluewhite64.example.net User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LNX 1167 2008-08-23) Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.eiffel:396 comp.lang.ada:7289 comp.lang.modula3:91 comp.programming:11999 Date: 2009-07-23T12:01:53+00:00 List-Id: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009, Simon J. Wright wrote: |--------------------------------------------------------------------| |"[..] | | | |And what will happen to this distinction with Point (2.0, 2.0);? | | | |You could use named parameter association, but *much* better to use | |proper types -- | | | |type Cartesian_Coordinate is record | | X : Metres; | | Y : Metres; | |end record; | | | |which makes it easy to (for instance) create appropriate functions | |"+", "-", "*", "/"." | |--------------------------------------------------------------------| Oh dear, Mr. Wright is nearly as bad as Mr. Rabak. Dr. Meyer gave an example of overloading which Eiffel can perform which he claimed that Ada can not manage. The pseudo-Ada example by Dr. Meyer did not have a record, and a less minor upgrade than adding a record was sufficient to show that Dr. Meyer did not know what he was writing about. |--------------------------------------------------------------------| |"I don't think I'd ever, even in an example, write 3.14 for | |Ada.Numerics.Pi. We have a partner company who redefined pi to be | |3.14159, causing a lot of expense to both sides when we sent a value| |greater than this (but less than Ada.Numerics.Pi) and they rejected | |it .." | |--------------------------------------------------------------------| Ah well.