From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.glorb.com!peer03.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!buffer1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2014 16:52:16 -0600 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 17:52:13 -0500 From: Peter Chapin X-X-Sender: pcc09070@WIL414CHAPIN.vtc.vsc.edu Subject: Re: F-22 ADA Programming In-Reply-To: <1c2c4aa0-9a0d-4906-b77e-79f2c3e27362@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: References: <220f97ab-9aa2-4961-b140-2b271c3ab99a@googlegroups.com> <99759c3f-a35f-4745-a8fd-2fb6ab6fb1aa@googlegroups.com> <48dc1630-8e7d-4e29-8bdd-53d74932d9d0@googlegroups.com> <88a7f98c-55c2-4b5f-8a9d-c8b7512781c8@googlegroups.com> <50cacb19-5d0b-4dbe-b91b-0b3b462913d6@googlegroups.com> <07d0ad94-160b-4873-ba1b-403e8c0bc420@googlegroups.com> <8100a013-e50d-4a19-b506-716288a2ccb4@googlegroups.com> <1c2c4aa0-9a0d-4906-b77e-79f2c3e27362@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (CYG 23 2013-08-11) Organization: Vermont Technical College MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-F8XVz9SRSOoapvUO2+AoFhmkuaJ8b2uBlQVoV2/dMvGyNGt57icZNuleJtp0t6J/563yKQduL92KDJj!NTz+fHzfH4PUe9Zdc3QiWoi9TI6F19LAygzPGGpsU5lsOw0eZJxknRG3m14CxGWDfPP3kmh2xy13!DBvwsVeQcTNS+3Mjkg== X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3407 X-Received-Bytes: 3550 X-Received-Body-CRC: 3127667902 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:22982 Date: 2014-11-02T17:52:13-05:00 List-Id: On Sun, 2 Nov 2014, Maciej Sobczak wrote: > Actually, as I have already written in a similar discussion here some > time ago, it is not C++ which is a biggest enemy of Ada (believe it or > not, C++ programmers are the only ones who are likely to become Ada > recruits) - the biggest and most dangerous enemy of Ada is Java, which > makes Ada and C++ look like close friends. I've often thought that Ada and C++ have more commonality than differences. Both target systems programming and yet provide tools for building high level abstractions. Both have largely similar feature sets with a few tweaks here and there. Both are "value oriented" and require the programmer to do explicit things to manipulate objects by reference (compare: Java). I tell my students that "anywhere it is reasonable to deploy C++ it would be reasonable to deploy Ada and vice-versa." This is from a technical standpoint not a social, political, or economic one. Of course Ada emphasizes safety whereas I would say C++ emphasizes performance. C++ maintains the C legacy where as Ada "only" needs to be worried about being compatible with itself. There are differences in the details. But compared with, say, Python or Haskell or even Java, C++ and Ada might as well be brothers. Peter