From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,9b30240b5a381bbf X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-08-26 22:57:04 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.stealth.net!news.stealth.net!newsfeed.song.fi!newsfeed.kolumbus.fi!not-for-mail From: "Juha Valimaki" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada 95 for an ARM-based bare board? Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 08:57:04 +0300 Organization: Elisa Internet customer Message-ID: References: <5ee5b646.0208191613.21291d5@posting.google.com> <7vptwccqfs.fsf@vlinux.voxelvision.no> <7vlm70cqcz.fsf@vlinux.voxelvision.no> <5ee5b646.0208211132.6c283ef0@posting.google.com> <5ee5b646.0208231819.981a776@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ua159d44hel.dial.kolumbus.fi X-Trace: phys-news1.kolumbus.fi 1030427824 4260 62.248.241.159 (27 Aug 2002 05:57:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@kolumbus.fi NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 05:57:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:28436 Date: 2002-08-27T08:57:04+03:00 List-Id: "Robert Dewar" wrote in message news:5ee5b646.0208231819.981a776@posting.google.com... > We think that it very much helps all segments of the Ada market to have a > high quality Ada compiler that students, hobbyists, and indidual > enthusiastic engineers can access. > If some kind of proof is needed why small markets _need_ every customer look at it this way: X is number of people using free tools Y is number of people using low end commercial tools Z is number of people using high end commercial tools X+Y+Z is the group of all Ada users. If you take away the free tools then N% of group X will buy a tool. N%*X+Y+Z > Y+Z, if N>0. Note however: Y+Z is likely to be smaller than X+Y+Z, but the market will be larger in terms of money!. > If there is a viable business in providing low cost products to small > development teams, then someone should by all means step in, but > please don't expect Ada Core Technologies to serve all needs of the Ada > community. We can't and we won't try. > For me it seems you are afraid that low end solutions would eat up your revenue and that Ada would be used more in general purpose programs that don't focus on mission critical code, which seems to be your main focus. That's a perfectly legal reason to suppress competition :-) I really believe Ada tool vendors would understand that there has to be some way for people to try Ada and do research without large cost. There are already good solutions for that: Institutions get tools usually for (almost) free and demo/limited versions help new users to start coding. > Robert Dewar > Ada Core Technologies Juha BTW: Low end is relative, for many hobby users $500 may max price, but I think many small companies would easily pay $2000-$4000 per developer (PER DEVELOPER is the key here). -------------------------------------- remove x from domain name to reply