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From: Dmitry A.Kazakov <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
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Subject: Re: Ada 95 for an ARM-based bare board?
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 00:41:44 +0200
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Larry Kilgallen wrote:

> In article <ajt1ae$1ebok8$1@ID-77047.news.dfncis.de>, Dmitry A.Kazakov
> <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> writes:

>> Yes of course. However note that almost none of our customers will ever
>> show any interest. They know nothing about Ada and even less about ACT.
> 
> So why should a vendor believe there is a market for Ada on ARM ?

To sell Ada to them! People I am talking about are not programmers. They 
are working as if they were. (:-)) They are using and planning to use C. I 
was amazed to know how much and how readily some of them pay for a 
pseudo-ANSI C compiler with a disgusting IDE. The situation will not change 
as long as: 

(1) there is no ready-and-easy-to-use products for fairly ignorant people.

(2) these products are incompatible with all sorts of [fancy] tools they 
are accustomed to use (MatLab, LabView etc).

(3) nobody [they respect] talks to and convinces them.

> Certainly there _could_be_ such a market, but vendors must prioritize
> on that which will sell.

Surely. My question was why the priorities look so. As far as I understood 
the strategy is simple - sit and wait until customers come to us.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry Kazakov
www.dmitry-kazakov.de