From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-25) on ip-172-31-91-241.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=3.0 tests=none autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 Path: nntp.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Nicolas Paul Colin de Glocester Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,fr.comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada 202x; 2022; and 2012 and Unicode package (UTF-nn encodings handling) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2025 21:27:39 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <10974d1$jn0e$1@dont-email.me> <4248d82b-d759-b5d2-aa45-e4c0e26c81e5@insomnia247.nl> <87seh4bsgm.fsf@example.invalid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; BOUNDARY="708268602-725049973-1756840314=:2785086" Injection-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2025 19:27:45 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="012d6f2228039dbcea876b9657b806b3"; logging-data="766824"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19QsREIvKOCJrYvx8/S5FcpVHFSMVHvd3+awO9zggiOBA==" Cancel-Lock: sha1:+PXTGDsnzKnVIHbwJbMreDgPRLg= In-Reply-To: <87seh4bsgm.fsf@example.invalid> Content-ID: Xref: feeder.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:67022 fr.comp.lang.ada:2358 List-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --708268602-725049973-1756840314=:2785086 Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-ID: On Tue, 2 Sep 2025, Keith Thompson wrote: "> I quote Usenet articles in a way which does not endear me to > persons. Not everyone reacts in the same way. OC Systems asked me how > do I draw those boxes. Why do you do that?" Such a quoting style is correlated with a possibly misguided perception=20 that a language does not have a quotation mark at the beginning of each=20 intermediate line. Indications that this perception is misguided are=20 English documents which are supposedly from decades before Ada 83 which do indeed show a "=E2=80=9C" (i.e. an English opening quotation mark) at the= =20 beginning of each intermediate line. However I am not interested enough in English and I do not have enough=20 time to investigate whether or not that is the real way to quote in=20 English. If one could show me an authoriative document older than the 20th= =20 century on how to write in English which declares so, then it might nudge= =20 me. I had not originally believed that drawing rectangles for embedded=20 quotations is annoying, as others used to draw so before me. However,=20 unfortunately these rectangles clearly annoy Mister Thompson. Sorry! " It seems like a lot of effort to produce an annoying result." No effort! As I wrote to OC Systems on Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 16:34:41 -0400 (EDT) long after I wrote an Emacs-Lisp code for these quotations: "Thank you for asking. At least so far as I have noticed, you are the first person to have asked me that even though I have been using them since last year. They are largely created by an Emacs Lisp function which I wrote (see far below) to save me labor, [. . .] [. . .] [. . .] (Emacs Lisp is terrible, but it is commonly available on email servers and I was using a buggy Common Lisp program at the time so I thought that drawing the boxes in Emacs Lisp might serve as some practice for bug fixing in Common Lisp.) [. . .]" --708268602-725049973-1756840314=:2785086--