From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,f51e93dacd9c7fca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-06-19 16:36:20 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newspeer.clara.net!news.clara.net!btnet-peer!btnet-peer0!btnet!psiuk-p2!psiuk-p3!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: status of Ada STL? Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 09:52:27 -0400 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: References: <3d0f0c40_1@news.tm.net.my> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-200-133.miami.pace.co.uk X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 1024494748 21526 136.170.200.133 (19 Jun 2002 13:52:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@news.cam.pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 19 Jun 2002 13:52:28 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:26445 Date: 2002-06-19T13:52:28+00:00 List-Id: I have no objection to adopting an existing library and declaring it to be "The Ada Answer". The problem is that if all you have is "Somewhere out on the net you can download this piece and that piece and some other piece...." you don't really have an integrated answer that gives Ada some additional leverage. How does someone write a textbook about Ada and show the student how to do things with a library if there is no "Conventional" library to rely on? How does an Ada programmer used to using library X start looking at code written with library Y quickly understand and exploit it? If there were only three libraries out there, it might not be so bad, but there are dozens of them and you can't even count on one that comes with some specific development environment - like MSVC++ comes with MFC. (Not "standard", but at least a developer who used MSVC++ in one job will recognize what's going on with it in another job.) Unless some collection of stuff gets declared to be The Ada Answer in some semi-official or conventional/customary way, someone with a more integrated answer (such as C++ & STL or Java and all its class libraries) is always going to have a hard-to-overcome competitive advantage. All the protestations of "But you can download one of a dozen...." or "You can bind to ...." or "You can go cobble together tools from these dozen...." won't overcome the one-stop-shopping and integrated advantage of some competing languages. Like I said elsewhere - its the price of admission these days, not a guarantee of success. MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com "Adrian Hoe" wrote in message news:3d0f0c40_1@news.tm.net.my... > > > There are a lot of (re)usable Ada code (or libraries) out there > already. Most can be easily extended. The question here is it > necessary to make a library? And we have many Ada websites. Why not > have these libraries and download location listed there? >