From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,28cd155693714664 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-06-17 19:26:26 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!130.240.42.8!luth.se!psiuk-p2!psiuk-p3!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Faulty languages and Liability Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 10:56:49 -0400 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: References: <3D0C7C0B.5000707@mail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-200-133.miami.pace.co.uk X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 1024325811 1064 136.170.200.133 (17 Jun 2002 14:56:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@news.cam.pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 17 Jun 2002 14:56:51 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:26195 Date: 2002-06-17T14:56:51+00:00 List-Id: If you brought suit, it wouldn't be with the claim "You didn't use Ada so you owe me money..." it would be because "You didn't build solid software and allowed easily detected & corrected bugs to get into the product you sold me so you owe me money..." Ada expert witnesses would testify "Why yes, Ada would have detected this error and never let it see the light of day - and it is readily available technology..." Similarly, other language experts for languages that are safer than C (or C++?) could be brought up to testify. "Why yes, Your Honor, everyone in the programming profession *knows* there are major holes in the C language that are quickly and easily plugged up by Language X, Language Y and Language Z. If error reduction was at all important to the defendant, they could have used one of those languages...." An argument could be made. Cases could be brought. Suits might actually be won. Would that *force* people to use Ada? Not at all. It would *force* them to take responsibility for building crap software & take measures to to correct that. They *could* do that with C - it would just cost less and be done faster with Ada. MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com "Larry Kilgallen" wrote in message news:Sti2rd9OKA6y@eisner.encompasserve.org... > In article <3D0C7C0B.5000707@mail.com>, Hyman Rosen writes: > > I am not the person you quote, but my interest as a software (including > embedded software) consumer has only to do with how well it works, not > with how that is achieved. If a vendor wants to provide me software, > be it an Ada compiler or an airbag controller, that is written in the > APL programming language, that is immaterial to me so long as the result > is high reliability.