From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,50601885924edfd3 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-06-05 16:42:57 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!diablo.theplanet.net!psiuk-p2!psiuk-p3!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Microsoft .Net, Ada should be at the head of this list Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 09:03:56 -0400 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: References: <3cfc6205_2@news.tm.net.my> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-200-133.miami.pace.co.uk X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 1023282237 15696 136.170.200.133 (5 Jun 2002 13:03:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@news.cam.pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Jun 2002 13:03:57 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:25374 Date: 2002-06-05T13:03:57+00:00 List-Id: Why is that exclusive of competing with Microsoft? Last time I checked, things like Linux compete with Microsoft. Gnat is a product that competes (to some extent, at least) against MSVC++, doesn't it? Just because a product is Open Source, doesn't mean it isn't a product that competes against Microsoft - or that it can't be sold for profit. And its also fair to note at this juncture that while there is a reasonable amount of complaining here about lack of jobs in Ada, has it occurred to anyone that unless there is some entrepreneurial spirit that starts up businesses to produce products that use Ada in their design & production, there will *never* be any Ada jobs out there? At the moment, the guys who are dreaming up the latest & greatest computer whozits & finding ways of producing those things for profit, tend to think in terms of Java and C++. Hence, you see thousands of small to medium sized companies all around the country looking for Java and C++ programmers. Nobody is going to take their existing products and convert them to Ada just because we think that's cool - *new* things have to be started in Ada and that isn't going to happen unless some Ada-philes dream up products to take to market. But I suppose we can all be intellectually opposed to finding a way of making anything with Ada that will generate a profit and then paradoxically sit around here complaining about the lack of Ada jobs. Its not very constructive, but at least its amusing. :-) MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com "Preben Randhol" wrote in message news:slrnafs1ro.aa1.randhol+abuse@kiuk0152.chembio.ntnu.no... > > Anybody interested in tilting at some windmills? :-) > > Heheh no I want to make software that I am free to use. > > "Don't think about domination, think about freedom, it doesn't dominate." > - Richard M. Stallman >