At the end of the day, the language used to produce something makes no difference - the end product does. When was the last time anyone asked if the blivets in their fuel injectors are made out of solid Unobtanium or not? All they care is that their car starts up and runs regularly. If Unobtanium helps get there, great, but the customer doesn't care. Now if we believe that we can produce *better* products and more usable products (through portability, etc.) at a lower cost using Ada, then maybe we've got something that would scare Microsoft. But so far, I don't see a lot of products out there written in Ada addressing the same needs that Microsoft is addressing with their products. I think that enough pieces are in place to be able to compete with Microsoft products using Ada Inside(tm), but there doesn't seem to be much competition emerging from the Ada community. Anybody interested in tilting at some windmills? :-) MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com "Gerhard H�ring" wrote in message news:slrnafoq91.n5p.gerhard@lilith.my-fqdn.de... > > That's bullshit. Programming languages don't take companies out of > business. Competing companies and competing better products and better > marketing do. > > I'm not aware of any product developed in Ada that competes with a > Microsoft product. Perhaps an embedded Ada RTOS competing with Windows > CE would come closest. >