From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,3025dd6d917b499c X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.66.73.1 with SMTP id h1mr1339344pav.0.1349728041277; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 13:27:21 -0700 (PDT) Path: t10ni23657341pbh.0!nntp.google.com!news.glorb.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Niklas Holsti Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada, the best language with the not-so-best tool chain Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 23:27:18 +0300 Organization: Tidorum Ltd Message-ID: References: <38af7fb8-b0a4-4a31-87aa-b7b698cc89c3@googlegroups.com> <3ca0ffd0-1764-484b-8fab-17c0d2dd9463@googlegroups.com> <1f645050-cf4c-40bf-a797-9687b69e4a54@googlegroups.com> <18ats2960nsvm$.kfufsnul13aq$.dlg@40tude.net> <5072c9ae$0$6562$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> <4keoa6epdxt7.1nnwxy7v7ar90.dlg@40tude.net> <3c244a30-8967-4c93-9e65-a9734d8bcbf2@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: individual.net l/XQpTeNwfa8FK2TaiFSOQF8Qttr6D7fbMsXCzNCKbLIDoVzXH Cancel-Lock: sha1:+6QX7P/kRcLpVFKcuVUlWIsCM80= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 In-Reply-To: <3c244a30-8967-4c93-9e65-a9734d8bcbf2@googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: 2012-10-08T23:27:18+03:00 List-Id: On 12-10-08 16:57 , Patrick wrote: > so again this is just brainstorming. Might be useless.... > > So yes, Ada is not C and the runtime needs more. Does anyone think it > might be possible for the community to come to some sort of near > agreement on some ultra minimal OS/RTOS that would provide the needed > functionality to implement all the Ada features but contain nothing > else. This would sort of be a micro-kernel for embedded space that > more facilities including full size operating systems would be built > from. To my knowledge, there are already two such, or at least two starting points: - MaRTE OS, http://marte.unican.es/: GPL real-time kernel, supports Ada out of the box. Take it and port it to the AVR, combine with AVR-Ada or GNAT for AVR. - Open Ravenscar Kernel, http://web.dit.upm.es/~str/ork/index.html. -- Niklas Holsti Tidorum Ltd niklas holsti tidorum fi . @ .