From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,d89b08801f2aacae X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-05-28 19:20:48 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!diablo.theplanet.net!psiuk-p2!psiuk-p3!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Is strong typing worth the cost? Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 11:26:06 -0400 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: References: <4519e058.0204290722.2189008@posting.google.com> <3CCE8523.6F2E721C@earthlink.net> <3CCEB246.9090009@worldnet.att.net> <3CCFFB7F.B8080F7A@despammed.com> <3CD1608B.A6336379@despammed.com> <3CD176D5.31892591@otelco.net> <3CF1231F.6000609@attbi.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-200-133.miami.pace.co.uk X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 1022599567 20524 136.170.200.133 (28 May 2002 15:26:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@news.cam.pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 May 2002 15:26:07 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:24891 Date: 2002-05-28T15:26:07+00:00 List-Id: My experience is similar and I totally agree. When working with Ada I either generate errors that are caught at compile time or with a runtime exception & the error is pretty obvious, or its the kind of profound, metaphysical error that a debugger would be worthless at catching anyway. ("You wanted the program to do what????" :-) I'm sure the gdb tool is a wonderful thing, but I've never turned it on and tried to figure out how to get it to work. Usually a few well placed Put_Line calls will get the info much faster & I don't generally need that very often. (Or its the kind of "Debugging" that you want to leave in place in the production code anyway...) Now when programming in C/C++? I can't live without the debugger! MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com "Robert I. Eachus" wrote in message news:3CF1231F.6000609@attbi.com... > options enabled, then run it first via the debugger. Ada programmers > tend to compile with debug options turned off, and personally I have > never used the debugger that comes with GNAT. (I did use the Verdix > debugger a few times though.) > > In my personal experience, I make very few coding errors that are not > caught by the compiler, and many of these are output formatting errors. > When I do need to debug something, it is actually the algorithm that I > am debugging/testing, and test cases plus occasional embedded print > statements are IMHO the best tool for that. > >