From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,ac39a12d5faf5b14 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-04-18 22:17:15 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!deine.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!psiuk-p2!psiuk-p3!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Grace and Maps (was Re: Development process in the Ada community) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 13:48:34 -0400 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: References: <3CB46975.90408@snafu.de> <3CBAFFEE.2080708@snafu.de> <4519e058.0204171036.6f0a7394@posting.google.com> <3CBDD795.4060706@snafu.de> <4519e058.0204180800.44fac012@posting.google.com> <3CBF0341.8020406@mail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-200-133.miami.pace.co.uk X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 1019152116 6652 136.170.200.133 (18 Apr 2002 17:48:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@news.cam.pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Apr 2002 17:48:36 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:22770 Date: 2002-04-18T17:48:36+00:00 List-Id: When the whole discussion of what eventually began to emerge as Grace got started, there seemed to be a consensus that if you had lists and maps, most of the other sorts of containers just wouldn't be that big a deal. Lists and Maps just cover the bulk of what you need to do in most practical programming situations. I wouldn't be surprised that C++ programmers have had similar experience. At some point you go: "Maybe there's a more efficient structure for this data, but I'm not doing realtime and here's a solution already put together for me, so lets just go with it for looking up information..." IIRC, there was general agreement to concentrate on Lists as a start and then, when the structure of it was settled, a similar spec would be discussed for Maps. If the Lists specification is considered done, perhaps its time to look at it with an eye towards proposing a Map specification? MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com "Hyman Rosen" wrote in message news:3CBF0341.8020406@mail.com... > > I was just reading somewhere (exactly where escapes me) of a recent > survey done on C++ programmers who have started using the STL. There > was some surprise to discover that the most used container was map. > Apparently what happens is that once programmers have map available, > they begin using it all over the place, replacing little local ad-hoc > lookup structures such as linear searches through arrays. >