From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,ac39a12d5faf5b14 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-04-15 19:13:39 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!skynet.be!skynet.be!newsgate.cistron.nl!psiuk-p2!psiuk-p3!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Rant! (was) Development process in the Ada community Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 11:28:19 -0400 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: References: <3CB46975.90408@snafu.de> <3CB77A6B.5090504@snafu.de> <184076622a7c648f157c56e417bd86d4.48257@mygate.mailgate.org> <3CB9375F.8040904@snafu.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-200-133.miami.pace.co.uk X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 1018884500 8267 136.170.200.133 (15 Apr 2002 15:28:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@news.cam.pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Apr 2002 15:28:20 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:22577 Date: 2002-04-15T15:28:20+00:00 List-Id: "Larry Kilgallen" wrote in message news:qnlsMmlYZCr9@eisner.encompasserve.org... > > Don't worry about getting it into the ISO standards, just get people > using a common set of packages and the rest will follow. There were > recent efforts here in this newsgroup in the area of containers; you > are free to choose a different venue. > > There is _nothing_ about the ISO process that is holding you back, > and libraries/packages have little to do with core language changes. This is true. What matters with respect to libraries is not so much that they have some rigid, formally defined, validated, ISO standard as it is that at least most of the vendors provide pretty much the same thing. You probably want a good deal of flexibility for libraries (at least in their early lives) so they can be changed as experience dictates. Maybe at some point when a given library has become very widespread and stable you could get it declared part of the ISO standard - but you may never really want that. Yopu may want to maintain the flexibility of being able to easily change out the library for something else. If we had some community concensus that one or more libraries was what we wanted for doing job X, all you'd have to do is persuade the vendors to distribute it with their compilers and it instantly becomes part of Ada even if it isn't part of the "standard". MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com