From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a24:6241:: with SMTP id d62mr513495itc.18.1551129509426; Mon, 25 Feb 2019 13:18:29 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:aca:c745:: with SMTP id x66mr237224oif.44.1551129509242; Mon, 25 Feb 2019 13:18:29 -0800 (PST) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.gegeweb.eu!gegeweb.org!usenet-fr.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!209.85.166.216.MISMATCH!y42no34913ita.0!news-out.google.com!d79ni25itc.0!nntp.google.com!y22no34729ita.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 13:18:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=5.186.125.230; posting-account=evKiCQoAAAAlW4DRMPKd5GV_i1n41MVD NNTP-Posting-Host: 5.186.125.230 References: <2199b15b-d704-403f-a6c4-00fab29792d5@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ada in command / control systems From: Jesper Quorning Injection-Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 21:18:29 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: reader01.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:55663 Date: 2019-02-25T13:18:28-08:00 List-Id: On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 9:24:33 AM UTC+1, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: > Because the PLC marked is dominated by vendors pushing their vendor-lock= =20 > solutions, e.g. Siemens. Siemens is the Apple of the industrial world. They have to lock the hardwar= e to keep up the quality of service. > Another reason is the customers lacking elementary programming and=20 > software design skills. They are usually technicians and electrical or=20 > mechanical engineers. I would say that software engineering is not about knowing everything about= programming. it is more about not doing things which is outside your compe= tences until you are competent enough to use the feature. Concurrency has been done with single CPU since forever with finite state m= achines (FSM) and cyclic executing. The PLC is not at primitive beast. It i= s a platform with logs, priority scheduling, interrupt handling functionali= ty on nearly everything from program errors to hardware errors, communicati= on errors and you can inspect the program states on the fly (online debuggi= ng). Safety is very important as the lives and economic interests of humans= are at stake. Jesper.