From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,ac39a12d5faf5b14 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-04-12 15:25:13 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.abs.net!news.voicenet.com!nntp.upenn.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: "Chad R. Meiners" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Rant! (was) Development process in the Ada community Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 18:20:56 -0400 Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: References: <3CB46975.90408@snafu.de> <3CB61A78.271280C1@btinternet.com> Reply-To: "Chad R. Meiners" NNTP-Posting-Host: arctic.cse.msu.edu X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:22458 Date: 2002-04-12T18:20:56-04:00 List-Id: With logically valid methods of reasoning, you must clearly distinguish that which you must assume (such as your reasoning axioms and your 'facts') from that which you prove. It is true that the power of logical reasoning is limited via Godel's proof, but this is never an excuse for allowing logical fallacies into any argument. Logic is still our best defense against the exploitation of ignorance and false conclusions. So even though we may not be able to enumerate all the truths of the universe, we can and should use logical reasoning; we simply must accept that there are some things that we cannot know. "Georg Bauhaus" wrote in message news:a9704r$6ql$1@a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de... > Chad R. Meiners wrote: > > : If you care about the truth, you must carefully determine the truth > : with logically valid methods. > > With consideration, o.K., but uhm, logically valid methods, leading to the > truth... isn't that one of the beliefs of the years before a 1936 > publication? And determining worldly facts is perhaps at least > intractable, outside clerical reasoning. Still one might at least consider.