From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,ac39a12d5faf5b14 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-04-12 08:44:04 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!193.174.75.178!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news.zfn.uni-bremen.de!informatik.uni-bremen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!uni-duisburg.de!not-for-mail From: Georg Bauhaus Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Development process in the Ada community Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 15:44:03 +0000 (UTC) Organization: GMUGHDU Message-ID: References: <3CB46975.90408@snafu.de> <3CB516E1.9030008@snafu.de> <3CB583D6.9000104@worldnet.att.net> <4519e058.0204111009.609078dc@posting.google.com> <3CB5D550.4000201@snafu.de> <4519e058.0204120637.6915bfe1@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: l1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de X-Trace: a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de 1018626243 6894 134.91.4.34 (12 Apr 2002 15:44:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.uni-duisburg.de NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 15:44:03 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: tin/1.5.8-20010221 ("Blue Water") (UNIX) (HP-UX/B.11.00 (9000/800)) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:22432 Date: 2002-04-12T15:44:03+00:00 List-Id: Ted Dennison wrote: : I use it for anything that isn't going to be OS-specific. But if you : are OS-specific you are going to want to use the OS's standard GUI, so : that everything looks and behaves the way the user expects. That's one : of the main reasons why you really can't make one "standard" GUI for : everyone. And not even on one OS one grand unified GUI makes sense in all cases. Look at Photoshop's control windows, Framemaker has deviations that I don't want to miss, and so on. I think it is really a pity that supposedly standard "controls" are available at all, because this essentially stops UI developement towards applications that are really integrated into the OS. No need to build standard windows into your aplications, instead leave that to the OS! MS is doing a good job of slowly leading Windows GUI users (and developers!) towards what is already there, but rarely used: Ever noticed that you can use the container window that appears after "select Menu, chose File Open" much the same way you can use a very similar window outside applications, employing drag&drop, creating resources, deleting files, ...? Why on earth are there file open dialogs in a _G_UI? - georg