From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,ac39a12d5faf5b14 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-04-12 15:46:20 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!easynet-tele!easynet-melon!easynet.net!psiuk-p2!psiuk-p3!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Development process in the Ada community Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 08:56:28 -0400 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: References: <3CB46975.90408@snafu.de> <3CB516E1.9030008@snafu.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-200-133.miami.pace.co.uk X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 1018616189 21631 136.170.200.133 (12 Apr 2002 12:56:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@news.cam.pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Apr 2002 12:56:29 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:22459 Date: 2002-04-12T12:56:29+00:00 List-Id: "Larry Kilgallen" wrote in message news:Cszsj+N+tOUp@eisner.encompasserve.org... > In article , "Marin David Condic" writes: > > > But to look at Java and ask "what's good about what they are doing?" is > > important as well. Having a large library of support code that works to > > create a whole portable development environment might just be A Good Thing. > > How many implementations of those standard libraries exist aside > from the Java bytecode engine ? Isn't it more than what Ada has? Java may not be producing really good standards with lots of conformant implementations, but it does come with class libraries that do a lot of things for the programmer. Ada (as a standard) comes with some math and string stuff and some bindings to other things and what else? Specific vendors may supply more stuff (and then you start approaching copmpetitiveness with MFC - a vendor and platform specific library) but wouldn't it be better to have some kind of pseudo-standard collection of classes that go along with the language and do a bunch of work for the developer? All the arguments about Ada being "better" than one or more other languages fall below the noise floor if it can't offer the developmental leverage you get with some other language & its libraries. MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com