From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,ac39a12d5faf5b14 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-04-12 04:13:00 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!psinet-eu-nl!psiuk-p4!uknet!psiuk-p3!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Development process in the Ada community Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 09:27:50 -0400 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: References: <3CB46975.90408@snafu.de> <3CB516E1.9030008@snafu.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-200-133.miami.pace.co.uk X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 1018531672 14786 136.170.200.133 (11 Apr 2002 13:27:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@news.cam.pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 11 Apr 2002 13:27:52 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:22415 Date: 2002-04-11T13:27:52+00:00 List-Id: I would agree that there needs to be stability around what might be called the "core" language. Certainly the 13 chapters of the ARM and possibly around the appendices as well. (Although I think it might be a benefit to be able to add to the appendices a little more easily to gain language extension without undue instability for the compiler writers.) But to look at Java and ask "what's good about what they are doing?" is important as well. Having a large library of support code that works to create a whole portable development environment might just be A Good Thing. Perhaps if the Ada standard process found a way of talking about "standard" libraries and incorporating them into the Ada language in some kind of semi-official way (with undue burdens or delays) it might help Ada find wider acceptance through the leverage it would offer to developers. MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com "Eric G. Miller" wrote in message news:pan.2002.04.11.01.38.30.887865.26212@jps-nospam.net... > > How many changes in the Java language have occurred in the last ten > years? How many are fully backwards compatible? Java aims to be > a whole platform, but it's a moving target. What about developers > who want their libraries and programs to be relevant for more than > a couple years? IMHO, rapidly changing languages present a double > edged sword. > > I think the goals of the two languages are somewhat orthogonal. I > don't think there will ever be a "one size fits all" language. > The safety and security features of Ada are very important to > some folks, for instance. > > Oh, btw, this "outdated mode" of standardization is one thing that > drew me to start using Ada vs. something like Java [tm], which is > owned by Sun.