From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,41100a78496a4c71 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-04-11 04:45:10 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!212.74.64.35!colt.net!news-x2.support.nl!psinet-eu-nl!psiuk-p4!uknet!psiuk-p3!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: SLOC-wars Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 10:54:27 -0400 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: References: <0b1a7c596d3d0851f6e35f3e81df82bd.48257@mygate.mailgate.org> <4519e058.0204100539.55abecac@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-200-133.miami.pace.co.uk X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 1018450468 9184 136.170.200.133 (10 Apr 2002 14:54:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@news.cam.pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Apr 2002 14:54:28 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:22353 Date: 2002-04-10T14:54:28+00:00 List-Id: "Ted Dennison" wrote in message news:4519e058.0204100539.55abecac@posting.google.com... > > At GE we called it "career limiting move", or CLM. CLM was the name of > my vollyeball team in the GE league. :-) > We sort of preferred "altering" as a kind of non-judgemental-sarcasm. Being reassigned to some hell-hole corner of the plant to run mindless disk backups until you retired was "Just An Alternate Career Path" - you're being "Judgemental" when you say it isn't as good as "Vice President of Engineering". :-) > > My typical reaction to this is to say: "Well then...what funtionality > would you like to remove?". I always have my favorite removal > candidates handy too, with savings estimate. :-) > Yeah. Great technique. Here's a problem. You don't usually build "extras" into an engine control. Everything in there has to be there or the engine doesn't run. (A handful of exceptions, but not many) So you can't always come in with a stripped down version. But the technique is wonderful for workstationish apps where you can say "Here's the 27 screens we originally planned and on which I based my estimate. Which ones do you want to live without in order to get the deadline you want? > The best response I ever saw though came from the legendary Gendreaux. > He walked up to the whiteboard in front of them all and wrote the > following: > --- > o Bugdet > o Quality > o Schedule > Pick any two > --- > The classic triangle. "Good" vs "Fast" vs "Cheap". The problem is that the usual kind of guy who makes it to Senior Bozo status is the kind of guy who gets the square peg into a round hole with a mallet. Sometimes their reality checks bounce. One of my favorite manager jokes: Engineer: "Hi, I came over to help you move your piano." Manager: "Thanks. I already got it moved." Engineer: "How'd you get that piano moved all by yourself?" Manager: "Hitched the cat to it." Engineer: "How did you get a tiny little cat to pull that piano up three flights of stairs?!?!?" Manager: "Used a whip!" MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com