From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,41100a78496a4c71 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-04-08 21:50:04 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!colt.net!news-x2.support.nl!psinet-eu-nl!psiuk-p4!uknet!psiuk-p3!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: SLOC-wars Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 10:35:34 -0400 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: References: <0b1a7c596d3d0851f6e35f3e81df82bd.48257@mygate.mailgate.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-200-133.miami.pace.co.uk X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 1018276536 19907 136.170.200.133 (8 Apr 2002 14:35:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@news.cam.pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 8 Apr 2002 14:35:36 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:22256 Date: 2002-04-08T14:35:36+00:00 List-Id: "Larry Kilgallen" wrote in message news:lwa7wTIAtfI6@eisner.encompasserve.org... > > In another setting I have seen similar things happen, and seen the > project completed according to the calculated schedule rather than > the manager-fiat schedule. Once in a "career altering move" I was standing up in front of a bunch of senior bozos explaining my best attempts to estimate how long it was going to take to finish up a software project. I had used all the science and some of the alchemy I had available to me to make the guess significantly better than pure rectal extraction. I was hit between the eyeballs with a two-by-four and informed that this was the "wrong answer". My response was to inform my superiors that they should have told me what the answer was before the meeting so I could have got it on the slide, but that I could easily take a grease pencil and write down any date they liked right now if they would be so kind as to tell me what numbers they wanted to see. I further informed them that when they got done dreaming about the cost of engineering in Heaven and we shot their schedule straight thru the head & woke them up, I'd be standing here telling them "I told you so..." Needless to say, "I told you so..." is not a senior bozo's favorite thing to hear. That's when I learned about the story of Hercules killing the messenger. :-) MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com