From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 11232c,3fd68bc06c32b870 X-Google-Attributes: gid11232c,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,41100a78496a4c71 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-04-05 00:45:07 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!not-for-mail From: "Bobby D. Bryant" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,misc.misc Subject: Re: SLOC-wars Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 02:36:33 -0600 Organization: dis- Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: dial-45-4.ots.utexas.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: geraldo.cc.utexas.edu 1017995829 9397 128.83.112.36 (5 Apr 2002 08:37:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@utexas.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 08:37:09 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Pan/0.11.2 (Unix) X-Comment-To: "Kent Paul Dolan" Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:22141 misc.misc:6131 Date: 2002-04-05T02:36:33-06:00 List-Id: On Thu, 04 Apr 2002 23:14:09 -0600, Kent Paul Dolan wrote: > Well, but SLOC is predicting by hindsight, and it has been fairly well > known since the 1960's that individual programmer's code output is > fairly constant when measured in keystrokes, so that about as many > lines per day of assembly as of APL can be delivered fully burdened. ... > Thus, in comparing a tool useful primarily for hindsight forecasting > to the detriment of one also useful for foresight forecasting, aren't > you doing the apples versus oranges thing? For current purposes all we seem to need is a metric that will give us a rough feel for how big a chunk of code is. All we need is - o a number that gives the rough metric, o a simple mechanism for acquiring the number, o a "standard" mechanism, so that it will mean approximately the same thing to everyone, o to the extent possible, a mechanism that works across languages. I'm all for the most sophisticated free system that satisfies the above, but I'm not interested in "more sophistication" if I can't get it by running a script or typing a simple expression at the prompt. It's not like we're bidding on a project or evaluating employee performance. Bobby Bryant Austin, Texas