From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,db9a11afb3da4240 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 102b75,501ec19d1d81daee X-Google-Attributes: gid102b75,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-04-04 16:33:28 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsmi-us.news.garr.it!NewsITBone-GARR!area.cu.mi.it!news.mailgate.org!newsfeed.icl.net!diablo.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!psiuk-p2!psiuk-p3!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.arch,comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Language support for flexible handling of system-detected errors. Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 10:01:11 -0500 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: References: <3CA0A166.501E1D68@despammed.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-200-133.miami.pace.co.uk X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 1017932472 27417 136.170.200.133 (4 Apr 2002 15:01:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@news.cam.pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 Apr 2002 15:01:12 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.arch:26445 comp.lang.ada:22119 Date: 2002-04-04T15:01:12+00:00 List-Id: "Ketil Malde" wrote in message news:eg4risndq4.fsf@sefirot.ii.uib.no... > > Now, if only it *worked*. > I readily and wholeheartedly conceed that MSVC++ - like many things made by Micro$oft - is buggy and unreliable. (It is, after all, written in C/C++ :-) Like many things Micro$oft makes - if it worked reliably, you'd have little/no reason to buy the next release. But that doesn't mean that the many features it has are not in some sense "desirable" and hence something from which lessons can be learned. I'd love to see something similar to the class view in some Ada IDE. I'd love to see a source-level debugger that let you change code on the fly and do the many things MSVC++ does (at least attempts to do) in an Ada IDE. While much of the MFC is either an interface to MS operating systems or a patch-up of weaknesses in the C++ language, that doesn't mean that a similar class library wouldn't be a real plus for an Ada IDE. I'm suggesting that most of the Ada IDE's I've seen don't come close to MSVC++ in terms of its highly integrated functionality. (Certainly not at the price tag.) There are certainly other IDE's that might provide more/better features in a variety of areas. But that's what Ada should be learning from and offering similar capabilities. MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com