From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,db9a11afb3da4240 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 102b75,501ec19d1d81daee X-Google-Attributes: gid102b75,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-04-03 18:32:28 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.icl.net!newspeer.clara.net!news.clara.net!psiuk-p2!psiuk-p3!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.arch,comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Language support for flexible handling of system-detected errors. Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 09:34:34 -0500 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: References: <3CA0A166.501E1D68@despammed.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-200-133.miami.pace.co.uk X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 1017844475 18369 136.170.200.133 (3 Apr 2002 14:34:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@news.cam.pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Apr 2002 14:34:35 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.arch:26372 comp.lang.ada:22070 Date: 2002-04-03T14:34:35+00:00 List-Id: No need to get insulting. Just consider this point: MSVC++ has considerably more features and integration than just about anything I've seen that comes out of a box for Ada. While you can get many of the same capabilities out of a polyglot of tools that you have to pull together from a variety of sources, there isn't something of similar capability for Ada. You may not like the way MSVC++ does a variety of things and you may have preferences for other toolsets (of which I'm always happy to hear) but I don't think that changes the fact that MSVC++ provides navigation, GUI building, class libraries, debugging, building, etc., all together in one convenient package and I don't see a similar shrink-wrap kit available for Ada. If Ada got *at least* as far as MSVC++ it would have achieved something pretty cool. Metrowerks and Code Warrior might make interesting models for deriving a set of requirements for an Ada IDE. I'd have to look at them in more detail to see what they do that would be A Good Thing. The idea should be to identify a set of capabilities & features that folks tend to find useful in other IDEs and adapt that to an Ada environment. It never hurts to add new capabilities and features along the way so that an Ada IDE would have *more* to offer than the other available tools. MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com "Maynard Handley" wrote in message news:name99-0204021351390001@handma2.apple.com... > > (1) Anyone who thinks Dev Studio is a nice IDE clearly doesn't have very > high standards. Dev Studio is a piece of junk. To give some obvious > examples: