From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,53c5fea49e77990c X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-04-01 17:09:48 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!diablo.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!psiuk-p2!psiuk-p3!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada Dot Net ? Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 09:43:24 -0500 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-200-133.miami.pace.co.uk X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 1017672205 6256 136.170.200.133 (1 Apr 2002 14:43:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@news.cam.pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 Apr 2002 14:43:25 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:21961 Date: 2002-04-01T14:43:25+00:00 List-Id: "William J. Thomas" wrote in message news:uadamv9fot6vda@corp.supernews.com... > We'll I would like to thank all of the Ada vendors for replying, I can see > that the future of Ada on the PC is in good hands (as it's always been). > I take that to be sarcasm. Generally, you won't hear the Ada vendors respond to much in this forum. *Maybe* if you make a bogus claim about their products or gratuitously insult the quality of their compilers, you might see a post correcting that perception, but we just don't see a lot of "Speaking For Compilers-R-Us" sorts of posts here when the topic is "Where should Ada be heading?". Too bad. It would often be nice to hear the vendor's positions on various subjects that come up here. > Thank God I earn my paycheck using Ada on embedded systems. I will just > have to be content knowing that Ada has found her nitch market in safety > critical systems, large complex weapon systems, and a few mission critical > commercial efforts. > Ada has an easier time fitting into that niche. Unfortunately, many embedded developers pay little attention to it. > > The company I work for is undergoing a serious process improvement effort, > we are standardizing on a great many things (thank God one of the things is > Ada95 for embedded systems, C comes in a rare second and only when Ada is > not available). We are also trying to standardize on the languages used for > future test equipment software development (this type of software is GUI > intensive, and makes extensive use of fancy I/O cards). > Maybe you wouldn't mind telling us who you work for? Its interesting (and admirable) to notice that some company is making sound decisions about software development and including Ada in their best practices. > Many of the software engineers involved in the standardization effort would > love to use Ada even for this class of applications, but when push comes to > shove Ada can't hold a candle to any of the other languages coupled with > their GUI environments. The MS Visual Studio supported languages can't be > beat for their level of integration into the underlying OS and almost every > I/O board on the market comes with drivers/APIs for their products. > I wouldn't expect Ada to attempt to compete head-to-head with an MS built product. It would lose - if for no other reason than MS will always be able to keep changing the playing field. Ada's strength (one of them, at least) lies in its ability to be operating-system-agnostic. You might try looking at GtkAda as a means of developing apps with some level of OS independence - well, as long as its one of two kinds of OS. :-) Ada would benefit from defining *something* as a kind of standard GUI interface or GUI development/execution environment so it could be used more readily to build portable apps on a variety of platforms. But that, of course, requires some consensus in the community - and in particular from the vendors, and, well, we don't hear much from them. :-) MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com