From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,91ec3b1c30b751e5 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-03-22 09:42:06 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!news.mailgate.org!newsreader.mailgate.org!not-for-mail From: John Stoneham Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: cross-platform source code editor Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 11:42:11 -0500 Organization: Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG Sender: obijohn63@yahoo.com Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-206-50-13-130.ionex.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Trace: newsreader.mailgate.org 1016818926 6855 206.50.13.130 (22 Mar 2002 17:42:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@mailgate.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 17:42:06 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: KNode/0.6.1 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:21549 Date: 2002-03-22T11:42:11-05:00 List-Id: Georg Bauhaus wrote: > There is a certain precursory learning investment > necessary before using any powerful IDE that goes > beyond colors, compiler buttons, and jumping to errors. > > It's worth it, but if you want to start in a hurry, > without learning, Emacs/ada-mode will be frustrating, > like anything of its class. > > - georg I take it that you are happy using emacs. That's fine, and I am pretty sure you are not in the minority. If you enjoy using it, there is no reason not to continue doing so. But for the record, I don't believe in doing something "in a hurry, without learning". Over the past 4 years, I have spent quite a bit of time with emacs. I know how to use it and *have* used it for the complete edit/compile/debug/repeat cycle on more than one project. My point is that I just don't like it. I want my source code editor to be *pleasant* to use, and yes, to look at. Using emacs makes me feel like I'm a surgeon in the Civil War using ether as my general anesthetic. I just don't think the product justifies the learning curve here, at least for me. I don't believe that my opinion about emacs makes me any less of a programmer. I *do* want more than "colors, compiler buttons, and jumping to errors", and I think that the combination of Glade, SciTE, and GVD makes for a more user-friendly and ultimately more *productive* development environment than emacs. But that's just me :-) -- John Stoneham (to email, reverse the domain)